The IVA Test

[danny_nelson]

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Hi Paul, I am sorry to say the news was all bad.
Danny

[PaulW]

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Hi Danny, Have been out Marlin circulation since Stoneleigh, any news from Terry re Berli IVA. Paul

[danny_nelson]

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Hi Paul, Has Terry contacted you?

[PaulW]

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Hi Terry, Is it good news about the Berli IVA Test ????? PaulW

[danny_nelson]

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Hi Terry I have details of another Berlinetta owner still building and asking about IVA keen to talk to you. Could you email me? and I will send contact details. He is not a club member.
Danny.

[PaulW]

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Hi terry , Thanks for IVA experiences to date , boy it sure sounds daunting. Will have a look at the IVA manual as a start !! Paul

[Mike]

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Hi everbody thought you might like to see this, it is my reply to paul who is thinking of putting his Berlinetta throught the IVA test
Hi Paul
Put a berlinetta through the IVA ?? well one club member said it would need so many changes it wouldnt look like a berlinetta, which i took (like an idiot) as a challenge.
so the list is quite extensive really and i am not there yet, but by the end of april the car goes in for a test whether it is finished or not,
the first thing you need to do is download the IVA manual, its about 1.5 inches thick when you print it off so you need tons of paper and ink cartridges.
a major job is you have redesign the seat belt mountings especially the bottom centre mount, so you need some structure built near the centre tunnel and something for the top of the shoulder mount, regrettably you end up cutting a hole in the roof to get the height for the mounting, before i send this i shall try to work out how to post a picture for you to see this.


.....................................irrespective of what happens on my first test i shall put some words on here for all to see.
terry

p.s. gave up trying to get a picture on here it needs a URL which means i guess i have host it on a website ? , maybe somebody can advise me .....

Terry

I am intrigued by why it was necessary to make a hole in the roof for the seat belts?

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[Tony Stott]

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[Terry_Scott]

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Hi everbody thought you might like to see this, it is my reply to paul who is thinking of putting his Berlinetta throught the IVA test
Hi Paul
Put a berlinetta through the IVA ?? well one club member said it would need so many changes it wouldnt look like a berlinetta, which i took (like an idiot) as a challenge.
so the list is quite extensive really and i am not there yet, but by the end of april the car goes in for a test whether it is finished or not, the reason for this is the glass supplied with the kit is none compliant after that date and VOSA have confirmed to me they WILL NOT extend that date, they have confirmed they will pass what they can , anything (or everything) it fails on i will have 6 months to fix, so it gives me an extension of the windscreens
the first thing you need to do is download the IVA manual, its about 1.5 inches thick when you print it off so you need tons of paper and ink cartridges.
a major job is you have redesign the seat belt mountings especially the bottom centre mount, so you need some structure built near the centre tunnel and something for the top of the shoulder mount, regrettably you end up cutting a hole in the roof to get the height for the mounting, before i send this i shall try to work out how to post a picture for you to see this.
the next issue is the wings need to cover the wheels, 4 problems here one is they are not wide enough, so i packed mine out by an inch each side from front to back, the next problem is the back of the wings are two high so i took them off and just drilled them again lower down on the body at the back, see the IVA manual for dimensions , mine needed lowering about 1.5 inches, next the front, the only way to fix this was to lower the suspension which requires new springs, BUT i also had to fit 13" wheels on the front to get it low enough, looks good really big Berlinetta wheels on the back, small 13 in wheels on the front. (this is all because of the wings)
the knock on effect from this is you need two spare wheels or none at all so now the boot looks odd with no spare wheel, plus the exhaust will hit every speed bump in the UK, so mine comes out of the engine bay and under the right wing, it was the only way to keep it high enough.
another subject which is not really IVA but really is required is to extend he steering column by 4.5 inches, no mean feat but i did it in the end, this is so the light switches and indicators are in the car with you and not buried in the dash.
there are loads of other trival things to get the car through the IVA, lighting, switches, sharp edges, fuel tank and fuel caps etc try and start with the IVA manual, its free and a really riveting read (not).
any other questions, just reply, i think i have fixed most of them.
irrespective of what happens on my first test i shall put some words on here for all to see.
terry

p.s. gave up trying to get a picture on here it needs a URL which means i guess i have host it on a website ? , maybe somebody can advise me .....

[Terry_Scott]

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hi james
thanks for that info, every little helps.
i have moved the steering column back 4 inches from the design by welding a tube with a flat plate on it just behind the steel bulkhead and bolted the aft column support to the cross box section behind the dash, everything is fine , i just need to lengthen the plane shaft down to the steering rack which should be easy , how did you do it then ?
For the wings i am fitting capri wheels to the front and i am going to pack the wings out by 1/2 inch, that shouldn't be to difficult, for the back to keep the gearing right as i have fitted an auto box , i am fitting the standard berlinetta wheels and packing the wings out to cover the wheels, sound easy, but i bet it will be a long job.

terry

[James]

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Hi Terry,
Just a word about your protruding front wheels. I had the same (IVA-type) problem here in Sweden, on mu first Berlinetta the original 15"x7" Compomotives protruded about half an inch outside the wings. The fix turned out to be quite simple thanks to the interchangeability of Ford parts. The front hub assembly from a rear wheel drive Escort is just over half an inch narrower than the Cortina's and it bolts straight on. The big problem today is probably finding the parts from the Escort. Later Berlinettas that I have built have had 15"x6" Compomotives and they do fit within the side of the wings.
I have also had the problem with the steering column that I managed to fix without welding but you have had a lot of advise on that so I will pass on it.

[Terry_Scott]

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boy . did i start something or was it danny talking about extending a steering shaft, dont worry guys i have been repairing aircraft for years and designing structural repairs on aircraft of all sorts so it wont be a gash job and i wont be doing the welding myself, i will get a professional, i just designed how to do it.
its away being done now, and if it comes back and is not good enough i will try again.
one thing about being an aircraft inspector for years is you do get to know whats good and what is not good, and i do have to agree, welding is very black art, i respect those that know the technicalities, every body to his own game a they say

[Terry_Scott]

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thanks danny

[Robert in Cumbria]

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Sounds interesting and HOT! Was that 1.6 flux cored wire? I have used that with special sprocket rollers in the wire feed for hard facing and coreofill for a work hardening steel we got from Track Weld in Durham? I forget now, it was 20 years ago.

[CABRIOBOB]

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Robert

Last year I converted an Artic 4 axle low loader step framed 40ft to 6 axle 60ft to carry 140ton and had to heat the joining steel sections up to 250* before welding using hardox and weldox mig wire for max penetration. It cost over £1500 just for the wire. It costs about 350 - 400 for hardox wire plus metal just to re-fab and brace a 40ton digger bucket compared to normal mig wire would be about £60 for the same job.