DVLA Consultation

[dcunn]

With thanks to Craig Davies who posted this on the FB page, I felt it needed wider publicity

Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs

Today, 9 May 2024, Mark Harper, the Secretary of State for Transport announced that the Department for Transport (DfT) and the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) have launched a call for evidence around the existing policies and registration processes for historic, classic and rebuilt vehicles.
The announcement was made at Bicester Heritage and aims to seek expertise and knowledge about whether these policies need updating to reflect evolving technologies that support the restoration and rebuilding of these vehicles.
DfT and DVLA are keen to tap into a range of experience, views, and research to help identify areas of potential change while ensuring that road safety and accurate vehicle records on the national register remain key priorities.
The call for evidence asks for evidence on several topics including:
- historic/classic vehicle registration
- rebuilt and restored vehicles
- kit-built vehicles
- vehicles converted to electric propulsion
- Q registration numbers
- the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)
The Federation will be continuing its work with DVLA by providing our full response that will encapsulate all of the dialogue we have had with the department over the previous months and will share it with Federation members in due course.
Read more here: https://www.gov.uk/.../call-for-evidence-launched-on-how...

[terryrscott]

.hi everybody
ref this item DCUNN has posted on here you really must follow this up, the kit car industry is dying (or is it dead?) and this is a really good opportunity to change the whole altered vehicle, kit car industry, HOW ? follow this link and fill in the questionnaire

https://online1.snapsurveys.com/interview/8469f753-6829-46be-aa67-f13317256523

i have just sat thru 3 hours of filling it out, it takes ages and goes on and on , its at least 3 cups of coffee, but it really is your chance of having your say.
find a dark corner and have a go, we owe it to the younger generation, hopefully if enough of us complete this it will make a change, and it looks like the Q plate might disappear if we all respond

[jimthesail]

I too have sat and filled it in but with a foresight of what politicians know and don't know (not a lot !) I put together a framework of what I thought the system should be !
This was it, what have I missed out ?

1) A 'Classic' status with vehicles issued with 'silver on black' plates (No 'Q' plates)
2) Mileage limited to 5000 per annum
3) Existing Historic, kit cars, rebuilds can change to 'silver on black' plate.
4) Three Mot's: Standard, Advanced and IVA.
5) Any 40 year plus vehicles require Standard Mot
6) Copies of any listed 40 year plus vehicle using a proprietary chassis or shell require a Standard Mot.
7) Copies of any listed 40 year plus vehicle using a proprietary chassis or shell but with non standard components, need Advanced Mot.
8) Copies of any listed 40 year plus vehicles with 'excessive' non standard components,
non proprietary chassis or shell, new designs and EVs require IVA

This would reduce the requirement for IVA's for most Kit Cars which are, in the main, copies of old designs that have been proof tested by 'time' and are well within the capabilities of the Mot tester. The Advanced tester would have knowledge of structures and welding and charge a bit extra for the privilege. He is the man to talk to before building your Jaguar powered Morris Minor ? A 'proprietary chassis/shell' is one produced from a known design fabricated by a company with 'coded welders'. It removes 'Q' plates which destroy the market the Government are trying to encourage and enforces Mot's on 40 year old vehicles which is common sense !

[andyf]

The problem with MOTs is that they want to simplify the standards for the testers and there are more and more requirements that will not apply to historic cars. I think that they see it as not worth the extra cost of keeping standards up to date that account for classics as worth it as there are so few on the road comparatively speaking.