205 block vs older Pinto.

[macdonald.dm]

Got my old ('75 Cortina) Pinto fired up, and can just make out the Berli through the haze...

It's not quite that bad but will clearly need replacing/rebuilding sooner rather than later.
Can anyone tell me if the 205 engine from early, carb, Sierras and the 5-speed 'box (type 9?) will be a straight fit? Are the engine and g'box mountings in the same place, and is the 'box the same length as the old 4-speed?

What is the difference with the 205 block - is it just a 'stronger' unit?

Thanks for any help.

[danny_nelson]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Stronger block Donnie. The same block as used for the cosworth. Better headas well. the engine fitted with the cortina mounts and not the alloy sierra ones will go stright in . The box will as well,but you need to make a new hole in a slightly different position for the gear stick. Also when you put the gearbox mount from the 4speed box on you may need to drill new locating holes in the two channel sections that the mount bolts to. The prop should be okay. Any more info reqd please get in touch. I have done this convertion several times. If you can find an injected sohc. The injection comes off and manifold and carb bolt on also most of these engines are lead free heads. I have the nos that relate to lead free if you req them.

[macdonald.dm]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Excellent Danny. Good advice re. the unleaded head - clearly the one to go for.
The unleaded head no.s would be very useful.
Thanks again.

[danny_nelson]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Look for P.PP or R.RR on a 2000ccblock and M.MM or N.NN on a 1600cc stamped on head.

[amalgamated users from prior forum]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Message originally posted by: Danny Nelson.
PS The injection does not work the other way round. IE you cannot bolt the injection system onto a head that originaly had a manifold and carb factory fitted.

[macdonald.dm]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Many thanks again, Danny.
While you're on a roll with this (!), just how significant would the power drop be by going for a 1.6 instead of 2.0L? Top speed isn't so much an issue, but I'd still like her to have a bit of poke on country roads. (Just trying to keep my options as open as possible since pre-DOHC Sierras seem to be pretty thin on the ground!)

[amalgamated users from prior forum]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Message originally posted by: Danny Nelson.
Stick with the 2000cc or I feel you may be disapointed. This is a personal opinion.

[macdonald.dm]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Will do! Thanks.

[macdonald.dm]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Is fitting a DOHC instead of a Pinto a straight-forward job; change of engine mounts, etc., or is it more complex than that?

Thanks.

[amalgamated users from prior forum]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Message originally posted by: Danny Nelson.
Donnie speak to Sue, club member Bob Cawte in their local group SHEB. has done this convertion. From the horses mouth so to speak.

[macdonald.dm]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Thanks again, Danny.

[amalgamated users from prior forum]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Message originally posted by: Mark Barnes
Hi,
I was reading on a Ford Website about the DOHC engine which seems to be a far better engine than my old SOHC. So how difficult is it to swap?

[macdonald.dm]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Hi Mark.
Still trying to track down Bob Cawte - I'll feedback when I have some info.

[lizbillings]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Hi Donnie. Quite a few of us including Bob Cawte, Sue & ourselves are at the Exmoor Run this weekend so not around for emails etc

[macdonald.dm]

Re: 205 block vs older Pinto.

Thanks Liz.