I have just been reading the Haynes manual for the Morris Marina 1300 and at the start it mentions that the Marina had a 'Toledo Type Gearbox' 1) Is this true and was it from the later (1971 onwards) rear wheel drive version. 2) can the Toledo box be fitted/mated to the 1300 engine 3) has anyone done this? Many thanks Adrian
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Re: Gearbox for 1300 marina based Roadster
I am currently working on a Ford Type9 conversion with Chris Weedon of the Marina Owners Club. I thought I would bounce this one to him and this is his reply. Hope it makes sense.
There are a family of gearboxes using the same gearbox casing and bellhousing bolt pattern; the internal ratios vary.
Marina – 1.1/1.3/1.7/1.8/1.5 diesel
Ital 1.3/1.7
Spitfire late 1.3/ all 1.5s
Toledo RWD 1.3/1.5
Dolomite 1.3/1.5/1850
TR7 4 speed
Vitesse 1.6/2.0
Herald 1250 & Early Spitfire 1.3s
Early Sherpa 1.6/1.8/1.8 diesel
There are different input shafts, they vary by no. of splines and diameters of input shaft, Triumphs are generally 10 spline and all Marina/Itals are 23 spline; but broadly they can be grouped into families as follows;
All the Triumph 1250/1300/1500s with whatever body shell.
All Marina/Ital 1.1/1.3s
Dolomite 1850/TR7
Marina/Ital 1.7/1.8/1.5 diesel
Vitesse 1.6/2.0
No-one has done the conversion that you mention to my knowledge, but it might be possible with a hybrid Toledo/Marina clutch kit. Question why would you want to?
Now that sounds like the answer to can you fit a Type 9 in a Marina not easy but we recon that can be done. I( might end up with a 1800 marina box going spare but that wont fit a 1300.
MOC member since 05/97
1984 Marlin Roadster SWB.
1800TC, Unleaded ported head, stage 2 cam. Ford Type 9 gearbox, Dolomite Sprint rear axle fitted with MGF disc brakes.
Three core radiator, Renault Clio vented front discs.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Loads of Marlin Reference can be found documents here or there. -
Re: Gearbox for 1300 marina based Roadster
If your gearbox is passed it, have a look at my Type 9 conversion saga.MOC member since 05/97
1984 Marlin Roadster SWB.
1800TC, Unleaded ported head, stage 2 cam. Ford Type 9 gearbox, Dolomite Sprint rear axle fitted with MGF disc brakes.
Three core radiator, Renault Clio vented front discs.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Loads of Marlin Reference can be found documents here or there.Comment
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Re: Gearbox for 1300 marina based Roadster
If anyone needs one I have a 1.3 gearbox in my garage, left over from when the car had a 1275 engine which is now sold - to my knowledge their is nothing wrong with it, but as I never drove the car with the 1275 in it I can't guarantee that. I would think £20 would be a fair price ....Comment
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